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Monday, 13 February 2006

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This sounds a lot like the distinction between "hill people" and "plains people" posited by the Annales historian Fernand Braudel.

According to Braudel, hill people differed fundamentally from plains people for three reinforcing reasons:

1) They were groups that had been driven to the hills - e.g., the Welsh. Hence, they are alienated from plains society.

2) Anti-social individuals within plains society from time to time had to "head to the hills."

3) The geography of hill country placed a premium on individual initiative and ad hoc solutions over normative institutions and traditional values, which the plains favored.

As a result, distinctly different hill peoples have emerged. This is geographically, not culturally determined. Hence, whether we are talking about the Highlanders in Scotland, the Basques in Spain, or the Berbers in Morocco, all are hill peoples that share common individualistic, ad hoc, values as opposed to the normative values of the surrounding plains people.

I distinctly recall articles that discuss the Afghans as hill peoples.

A great deal of "terrorism" might be characterized as the exuberance of hill peoples and the discomfort of plains people in the face of relative chaos. Robb’s contribution appears to be how this conflict interacts with modern networks and other technology.

Following some sublinks in an earlier post, I discovered the work of Cosma Shalizi (his PhD dissertation was referenced). An article he wrote for the Santa Fe Institute describing the work of Scott Page on "the logic of diversity" outlines how "inept" agents working on a problem can out-perform the "experts."

Page's insights provide further evidence for the efficacity of guerrilla warfare and provide a framework for one aspect of how and why they outperform the military experts.

See: http://cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/bulletin/logic-of-diversity.html

Duncan Kinder >"This sounds a lot like the distinction between "hill people" and "plains people" posited by the Annales historian Fernand Braudel..."

As well as R. Buckminster Fuller`s distinction between "dry landers" & "ocean goers"

Reaction to their specific environment drives evolution of behavior by groups

"Self-mastery is the key to the portals of the universe" - Joseph W. Kittinger

Thanks Duncan. What happens when multiple plains people and the hill people are thrown together into a chaotic common market and communications milieu too complex and big for the any one plains people to dominate?

The tribes of the Middle and Northern Zagros and Caucasus mountains (Iran, Turkey, Kurdistan, Armenia) are excellent examples of "hills people". A large part of recent (20th century) history of the region can be explained by their interaction with the plains people (persians, arabs, turks), not to mention the English and Russian invaders. The Marsh Arabs of Southern Iraq could also count as "hills people". Looks like an interesting role reversal, doesn't it?

"Thanks Duncan. What happens when multiple plains people and the hill people are thrown together into a chaotic common market and communications milieu too complex and big for the any one plains people to dominate?"

Have you ever heard of Ghengiz Khan?

I really don't know, but the Arab historian Ibn Khaldun posited a theory whereby vigorous hill people tyes would ultimately overcome increasingly weak and decadent plains people types.

I have speculated that Khaldun has influenced Braudel, but I really am not sure of this.

Khaldun would be another resource to consider, however.

The following New York Times article discusses how the 10th Mountain Division is adjusting its tactics to respond to the Afghans' hill peoples ethos.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/16/nyregion/16fort.html

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