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August 10, 2006

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evolvedreason

"Not sure that the destruction of Lebanon falls into fighting for connectivity"

Excellent point John. Destabilizing a state only helps your stateless enemy. If greater connectivity is the goal then it is paramount that you find a way to kill the roaches without burning down the house.

mark safranski

"Not sure that the destruction of Lebanon falls into fighting for connectivity"

Agreed. I thought Israel's EBO attack on Lebanon made very little diplomatic or military sense ( though it may have made sense in terms of domestic Israeli politics -re; kidnapped soldiers - a poor use of national resources however)

"If you mean black globalization..."

No, I meant connectivity in terms of something positive or constructive -when conjoined to a " theme of vitality and growth" so much the better. That is what is absent.

Black Globalization is a form of connectivity -one we are apt to see even in anarchic zones because human activity requires subsistence and ppl will strive for that and more (if they can). Sort of Maslow's hierarchy with automatic weaponry.

However, unless a society or group can move beyond the limitations of Black Globalization (i.e. ever present risk of violence, high frequency of zero-sum mentality) then the parameters of the possible will be sharply circumscribed.

John Robb

Of course, to the Afghan farmer making $5k a year + now with opium(rather than less than $1 k with other crops), black globalization is getting ahead. Same thing is true for the Chinese factory owner (and his workers) producing knock-offs or the illegal laborer crossing into the US or Europe.

mark safranski

John, you've gone from Black to shades of Grey ! ;o)

The economics of the subsistence farmer in Afghanistan is replicated wherever there are cash crop alternatives for commodity export, illegality is not required, just scarcity( Not sure how lucrative the opium crop would be after Western decrimininalization, but it would still probably pay better than growing food). It creates a cash margin above subsistence level - assuming the margin is not expropriated by warlords, of course.

The U.S. saw yeomen farmers growing cotton in the antebellum period for the same reason.

gmoke

"...there are no 4GW warriors around fighting for greater connectivity, no Global Guerillas for an Open Society..."

You think Nicholas Negroponte's $100 Laptop Project isn't an example of Global Guerrillas for an Open Society? I have my suspicions that given Mr Negroponte's family connections he might even consider himself some kind of warrior as well or, at least, a 4GW diplomat.

Today I was at MIT to look at the results of a student project to build four alternative fuel, 300 mile per gallon vehicles over the summer months. 50 or more students from 15 countries came together to do an open source construction hack. The participants were drawn from teams that have built world class competition human power and solar vehicles. Sounds like they could be considered 4GW seabees.

And then there's all that stuff worldchanging.com covers and Cameron Sinclair and the Jhai Foundation and the Barefoot University and a whole bunch of other NGOs and individuals who are doing 4GW work whether or not they consider themselves Global Guerrillas Warriors.

"Global Guerrillas for an Open Society." Might be worth a proposal to George Soros.

John Robb

gmoke, you are exactly right.

gmoke

Thanks for the support but being right and being effective are two entirely different things.

I wonder what strategies and tactics would make "white" global guerrillas more effective than "black" global guerrillas.

That's a discussion I'd like to help start.

mark safranski

""Global Guerrillas for an Open Society." Might be worth a proposal to George Soros."

"I wonder what strategies and tactics would make "white" global guerrillas more effective than "black" global guerrillas."

Great questions. Perhaps John's book will have those answers ?

Nick

I think that's a great point, and even better questions, gmoke.

These worldchanging types, and, the entire online community/ set of networked orgs, these are the white hats. This is the upside of 4gw.

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