Web 2.0?

Tim O'Reilly posts a map of what he thinks Web 2.0 looks like. Not sure if this makes sense. Very confused thinking. I think this is one of those things where you "had to be there" to understand. Not much use for the rest of us.

Comments

[Jason Lefkowitz]

I read this as "Web 2.0 == the sum of all currently hip buzzwords".

Which is pretty much what my understanding of "Web 2.0" was before...

[Jason Lefkowitz]

And I forgot to mention -- let's not forget all the innovation that's still going on around Web 1.0:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/merlin/13374753/

;-)

[thanks]

John - thanks for posting the link!
What would make the meme map clear?

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### Web 2.0 Meme Map ###
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GROUPING (1)
- - - - - - - - - - - -
* Flickr, Del.icio.us : Tagging, not taxonomy
* Gmail, Google Maps and AJAX : Rich User Experiences
* Google AdSense : customer self-service enabling the long tail
* Blogs : Participation, Not publishing
* BitTorrent : Radical Decentrailization
* Wikipedia : Radical Trust

GROUPING (2)
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* "An attitude, not a technology"
* The Long Tail
* Data as the "Intel Inside"
* Hackability
* The perpetual beta
* The Right to Remix : "Some rights reserved"
* Software that gets better the more people use it
* Emergent : User behavior not predetermined
* Play
* Granular Addressability of content
* Rich User Experience
* Small Pieces Loosely Joined (web as components)
* Trust your users

HUB OF GROUPING (1+2)
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- Strategic Positioning:
- * The Web as Platform
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- User Positioning:
- * You control your own data
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- Core Competencies:
- * Services, not packaged software
- * Architecture of participation
- * Cost-effective scalability
- * Remixable data source and data transformations
- * Software above the level of a single device
- * Harnessing collective intelligence

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SOURCE:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36521959321@N01/44349798

[Fred Grott]

Let me sum it up in one concise sentence:

Hackabe web anywhee whether desktop, mobile, and etc.

[thanks_2.0]

Fred - interesting blog. Thanks for posting.

[Dimitar Vesselinov]

Web 2.0 for me (sort of):

1. Bloglines
2. Wikipedia
3. Blogger
4. del.icio.us
5. Skype
6. Gmail
7. Flickr
8. Mozilla Firefox
9. social networks

Blogs on Web 2.0:
http://www.techcrunch.com
http://www.readwriteweb.com

[LINKS]

... more links

http://internetalchemy.org/2005/07/talis-web-20-and-all-that

http://www.whatsweb20.com/
http://web2.wsj2.com/web2ishere.htm
http://web2.wsj2.com/visualizingweb20.htm
http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/09/21/472405.aspx
http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/09/27.html#a11271
http://archive.scripting.com/2005/09/27#web20IsReallySimple
http://tech.memeorandum.com/050927/p26#a050927p26
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002840.php
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002834.php
http://www.web2con.com/
http://www.rallenhome.com/2005/08/foo-camp-2005-saturday.html

[John Robb]

The big problem with this is that it seems to be a collection of "buzzword" tech. What are the 3 big themes that undergird the upgrade?

[phil jones]

"What are the 3 big themes that undergird the upgrade?"

- open data. You open whatever data you have, and positively encourage others to take it and "join" / "remix" it with their own. Plenty of people always understood this, but were probably swamped in web 1.0 by an influx from traditional media who tended to see data as something they created and sold access to.

- specialization. Open data allows more niche re-users. One company doesn't have to do it all. It's a distributed bazaar where you can get famous (and possibly rich) doing one thing really well, as long as you're plugged into the ecosystem in the right way. Being well plugged-in is probably more important than having a stunningly good and original idea, or great execution. The irony here is that people who get famous doing one thing well, then get rich by being bought by a bigger conglomerate.

- automation. For now, RSS and search engines. I guess we'll see further developments in crawlers, scutters, search and inference engines etc. With or without RDF. The important point is that integration doesn't just happen in the brain of the user any more.

AJAX I'm ambivalent about. It makes cute interfaces, which seem like a big deal to some people. But if we didn't have AJAX we'd probably be doing more with custom client software as was already happening with things like iPodder, Flickr's Uploadr, RSS aggregators, Napster etc.

Of course, the smart people (like Winer) could see all this years ago. But OReilly think of memes as platforms they can own. I guess this does help to get a bundle of ideas more widely distributed, and to a certain extent provides a shared vocabulary we can use to communicate more effectively.

Lots of people will misunderstand it all, though.

[John Robb]

I think your taxonomy works nicely. I came up with automation and open data on my own and you confirmed it. Perhaps if we replace specialization with customized services, we have a winner.